Posted: 5:35 pm Sunday, January 19th, 2014

Recap of Georgia Tech’s biggest recruiting weekend of year 

By Michael Carvell

Georgia Tech had its biggest recruiting weekend of the year with around 10 prospects on official visits.

Nine of the 10 players were already committed to Georgia Tech, and they spent a lot of time over the weekend working on the one who wasn’t pledged to the Yellow Jackets – 3-star defensive tackle Michael Sawyers of Nashville.

The 6-foot-2, 300-pound Sawyers de-committed from Vanderbilt after the coaching change. He’s now considering the Yellow Jackets, along with Ole Miss, Tennessee and Vanderbilt.

“Yes, we got to spend a lot of time with Mike — we’re trying to get him on board to come to Georgia Tech, too,” said Lamar County High School defensive back Lawrence Austin, who is committed to Georgia Tech along with his twin brother, Lance Austin.

“(Sawyers) told us he really liked Georgia Tech, and that’s the reason why he came back for a visit. He’s got some other visits coming up, but I feel good about our chances. I think they are pretty good. He really enjoyed his visit.”

This weekend’s visitors who were already committed to Georgia Tech included WR Jalen Johnson, TE Trey Klock, LB Terrell Lewis, OL Andrew Marshall, WR-DB Qua Searcy, DE Antonio Simmons and DB Miles Taylor.

“I had a basketball game Friday night so I arrived late but I had a great time at GT,” Klock told the AJC.

“I had the chance to meet a lot more of the commits and spend time with the players and coaches. I enjoyed bowling and playing pool with the coaches and was surprised at how good Coach (Paul Johnson) is at ping pong!

“My family and I went to the Coca-Cola factory and checked out a lot of attractions in Atlanta. I also had meetings with Coach Sewak and Coach Johnson and we accomplished a lot of things and I now have a better understanding of what to expect.”

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95 comments
Zapp
Zapp

I laugh every time I see someone write about the difficulties of Georgia Tech, I might remind them Vanderbilt has been successful and they are more difficult.  Stanford is a higher rated engineering school and they have been finishing in the top 10.  It's only hard when you have a coach no one wants to play for.

Realisticfan
Realisticfan

Flat out recruiting?  Two and 3 star recruits so his class will end up 54th.  Wow.

Jmonty
Jmonty

Good for these young men....  Will CPJ be able to get things rolling??  Well, he hasn't as of yet...  He may have to 2017 on his contract.  However; if we have another 6-7 win season next year, I see his contract being bought out.  So, I think CPJ will be on the hot seat next year for sure.

Iluvnutella
Iluvnutella

Last hoorah for Ole fish-fry......Two more yrs then his contract is up.


96JB
96JB

Looks like some good kids. Go Dawgs.

Caius
Caius

To address my own question - How????

As of today GT offers undergraduate degrees in 34 majors.  UGA offers degree in 200 undergraduate majors. That is a restricted academic environment. At GT you pick one of 34 majors.  At UGA you pick one of 200 majors.  Where is the average high school athlete who has academics as second to athletics going to attend college?


GT is a STEM institution with 76% of its undergraduate degrees are awarded in STEM majors. 


One answer is expand the academic program by 160 majors.  Not gonna happen.  The other is to recruit athletics who want a degree in a STEM subject.  That means recruiting nationally with a national recruiting budget.  Not sure that is gonna happen either.





Caius
Caius

Interesting discussion about win - loss and recruiting.  Lot of opinion.


Since the 1971 season GT has won 53% of its football games.  Under Johnson they have won  60% of their games. Whether you like him or dislike him, Johnson is one of the more successful coaches at GT.  Since 1971 the successful coaches at GT have been O'Leary at 61% and Johnson at 60%.  Next was Gailey at 58%.


That is the state of GT football.


The question on the table is how can GT football go from winning 60% of its games to winning 70% of its games when it has not done so in the past 42 years?


Maybe Stanford has an answer.  From 1970 through 2013 Stanford has won 52% of its games.  But since 2008 Stanford has won 81% of its games.  How????




JM64
JM64

Trey is a great young man.  He was at the bowl game in Nashville with his family.  His dad was intense.  Great man.  Glad to have him as pat of the GT program.

I m glad to hear Sawyers enjoyed his visit.  He's make a great impact at GT.  I'd love to see him on the D-line.

Quackmeyer
Quackmeyer

POAD2013....you are so right about these recruiting services.  You must remember that the bottom line is, these services want to get in your pocket for your cash.  There are actually adults that pay them!  AMAZING

TheRealGetReal
TheRealGetReal

Tech's class has now dropped to 53rd on Scout...truly sad

JacketTime
JacketTime

Which engineering degree are you referring to? Industrial? That can’t be cause we’re #1. Mechanical? Nope (we’re #3).Civil? Nope (#3 again). Aerospace? Nope (we’re #2 right behind MIT). Neither schools you mentioned has consistently been successful sports wise either. Historically, we top them. Even 4-5 years ago we were the better program. Things change and our time will come. Their time t be bad again will too. I’m assuming Vandy is about to be back in the lower tier since their coach left.

SupersizeThatOrder-mutt
SupersizeThatOrder-mutt

@ZappVandy also has about 200 different majors instead of the approximately 50 that Tech has.  That is the difference between a UNIVERSITY and an engineering / technical institute.  Maybe if you had any kind of education yourself, you would realize that.

birdrow
birdrow

@Realisticfan

He is flat out recruiting.  Do you have any idea how hard it is to find a recruiting class of the smartest student athletes in the world?  For them to even have a chance to qualify for the leading institution of higher learning in the history of mankind requires such a thorough vetting process, that it's a wonder Tech get's any recruits at all.  Tech is the hardest school in the world, and they require every student athlete to obtain a Nuclear Physics degree BEFORE they even allow them to step foot on the practice field.  That's why they can't recruit or win.  No one else in the nation has the standards they have.

birdrow
birdrow

@Jmonty 

When you realize that over 60% of the scientists at NASA played football at Georgia Tech, wins and losses pale in comparison.

GTMan1949
GTMan1949

  Hope you are right, 2 more meaningless seasons.

MikeBanning
MikeBanning

@POAD2013 

Absolutely silly and unreasonable on your part!

Use your brain!

Every BCS level Recruit gets the same exact financial aid package -- A full scholly.

When you have a full ride at 5-10 schools where in many cases the ACADEMICS ARE EQUAL, then at that point it becomes a CFB DECISION.

Theoretically, a GT recruit can also go to, UVa, ND, maybe Michigan, Stanford, Vandy, Dook, and Wake.

For a FB-player the ACADEMICS IS EQUAL at all those schools if you are dead-set on staying with your intended major, so at that point you choose the school that has the best FB and can help you with your SLIM chances at playing in  the NFL.

When the academics is equal and you are a BCS-level recruit choosing from among several schools, then at that point you are playing with "house money" and in most cases the Recruit then makes a FB decision as the tie-breaker to choose his school.

Too many GT fans are so delusional that they think that GT's BS in Business is so "special" that a BCS level FB recruit will give GT an extra bump when it comes to decision time and the time to choose a school.

MikeS777
MikeS777

@POAD2013 Well, school and all is good for the long term, but a lot of these guys are looking to make football a career.  The relationship with the coaches becomes a huge deal at that point as well as how the program intends to use you on the field.  It has to be a good match, or you very likely won't be at you're best on the field.

forexbomb
forexbomb

@collegeballfan 


Yawn!  When you started your career in whatever... Did you constantly make excuses about why you couldn't be successful?  The ONLY answer is to SELL your product...  You have a second to NONE product that require NO excuses!  Period...  

MikeBanning
MikeBanning

@collegeballfan 

All that STEM crap doesn't matter since our RECRUITED FB PLAYERS Major in Business Admin.

Business Admin courses are NOT guaranteed to be harder at GT just because the next bldg. houses Engineering classes.

96JB
96JB

@collegeballfan  And Auburn offers a college campus where players can feel like they go to college

MikeBanning
MikeBanning

@collegeballfan 

A lot of the reasons behind that 60% historical win pctg. have been ELIMINATED, this is the part that the CPJ apologists leave out.


First of all, GT no longer has horribly poor facilities.

Dodd the college drop-out from an SEC school was allowed to be GT's  AD without the necessary Academic & Business background to be an AD.

During his tenure as GT went from having among the BEST facilities in the SE-USA to having among the worst facilities among schools in this region.

A lot of the HCs that followed Dodd had to contend with these horrible facilities and this is part of the reason those HCs did not win more games.

That is no longer the case , now we have facilities in the Middle-third at worst and in all likelihood in the upper-third of all schools in the SE-USA so that is no longer the impediment to GT HCs being able to recruit and win games.


Next, the NCAA no longer has 135, then 105, then 95 scholly maximums, now we are at 85 scholly maxes and that has lead to the TALENT BEING SPREAD around more evenly, which should allow GT 's HC to acquire talent and catch up to the elite programs in this region.

Compare that to the era right after Dodd retired when schools could carry 135 players on scholly, in that era once you got behind the 8-ball you stayed there a  while because the better schools had players stock-piled on their benches that could not play against them.

Even when Curry started the maxes were 105 scholly players, hard to catch up when other schools are hoarding players that could start for your team (GT).

GT's recent HCs don't face that issue any more now that the 85-scholly limit spread the talent around and allows more teams to become competitive FASTER.


The 2 issues that are outlined above do NOT exist for CPJ and have never existed during his tenure as GT's HC.

Therefore, the old out-dated excuses that GT fans have used in the past can no longer be used to defend CPJ 's poor performance.

in 2014 and beyond GT has no excuse to accept CPJ 's paltry winning percentage, we should demand more!

MikeBanning
MikeBanning

@collegeballfan  

How????

Stanford got kinda lucky when they hit on Jim Harbaugh, then they followed it up with David Shaw and that was not LUCK (pun intended), also they do a better job of DEVELOPING their 3* recruits than we do, in recent years there are a lot of players on NFL rosters that played at Stanford.

That is not going to change either, there are a lot of future NFL guys in the pipeline at Stanford, so they aren't going anywhere anytime soon.

They might not continue to win 11+ games every year, but they won't drop as low as GT is under Pajamas with 25 losses in a 4 year span.

How????

Stanford is smarter than GT and does things SMARTER THAN GT DOES WRT playing BCS level CFB.

96JB
96JB

@collegeballfanIt's WHO you lose to...Ask Coach Richt. Plowing up wins and yardage against Western Carolina and Wofford's means little.

badbrad23
badbrad23

@Quackmeyer @poad...I'm a UGA fan so no dawg in this hunt although I find it entertaining some days to read the banter between you guys and MikeB.  I too would never subscribe to one of the pay services on my own, BUT my son-in-law gave me a subscription to Rivals for Christmas and it has been fascinating.  The news about UGA hiring Pruitt broke on there hours in advance of it being released officially.  That tells me that people inside athletic depts are posting there. For me it's now a daily read.

POAD2013
POAD2013

@TheRealGetReal That is not possible. 

No players have SIGNED a NLI so no team even has a CLASS yet.

A bunch of people making guesses on how good a player is and therefore how good a collective group of players are is such a JOKE


MikeBanning
MikeBanning

@TheRealGetReal 

As the Big-Boys and the other Top-30 recruiting schools close out their classes with the better un-committed players, then they will move up and end up pushing schools like GT down.

Back when we were in the mid-30s and everyone was getting excited about "CPJ's best class ever", I mentioned that we would probably end up in the High-40s to Low-50s.

3 weeks from NSD, we are on a collision course with finishing in the High-40s to Low-50s.

But, "some people" around here thinks that GT FB is better served by only reading the opinions of guys like Stein, JMK, GTBob, and, Soupy-Sized, and this one other guy whose name escapes me right now.

Delbert_D
Delbert_D

@MikeBanning@POAD2013  

I think a lot of the high school kids want a relatively easy path toward staying in school/graduation. Heck, I changed my major 4 times and attended 7 schools to get my degrees.I got smart after the first 2 floundering attempts with 4 changes of majors, 2 years in the USMC Reserve, and then 7 years in the US Navy. If I could have majored in Parks and Recreation Management and graduated in 4 years, I would have been able to finish the second part of OCS. Like I said, got smart (or grew up) too late.


I would not recommend fantasizing about pro football. That will be a major distraction for those who have a modicum of intellect.

AugustaJacket
AugustaJacket

@MikeBanning @POAD2013 

Actually, most of us think that the rigor of GT academics, even in the one "Athletic" major, drives recruits to the other schools, not give us a "bump."


You're the delusional one.


Keep trolling.

Delbert_D
Delbert_D

@MikeS777@POAD2013 Mike, they may think they will make football a career. Just simplifying some numbers, 100 schools times 15 recruits = 1,500 recruits who are thinking about making it a career in every signing class. 224 players are drafted by the NFL (32 times 7 rounds for simplification) each year. This year 98 players are flooding the NFL draft early, so that makes it more difficult for guys in this senior class. 

Also, Div. 1 has more than 100 schools, and Div. 1a usually turns up some talent (9 FCS players are among the 98 early entry guys.) There are about 150 former FCS players in the NFL now.

MikeS777
MikeS777

@MikeBanning @collegeballfan This is true.  GT may not have a lot of majors, but even when I was at Tech back in the early 90's, a lot of athletes majored in Management or one of the similar majors.  Of course there are athletes that want to major in engineering.  The point is, Tech does have some majors these guys can go to that are not going to put them through the ringer like the engineering majors do.

MikeBanning
MikeBanning

the first line should be 53% instead of 60%, the edit monster locked me out with 5 minutes left.

GTBob
GTBob

@MikeBanning Stanford is never going to drop to the GT level again? The team that had 7 losing seasons in a row before Andrew Luck got there is never going to have a losing season again? Slightly wishful thinking there. I also like how you leave out the new Dean of Admissions who probably did more to transform Stanford than Harbaugh did.

bobbyross1990
bobbyross1990

@96JB @collegeballfan Ask Coach Richt what? How to beat teams with lesser talent? He'd be the first I ask ;) 

GTBob
GTBob

@96JB @collegeballfan Playing the who you lose to game is pointless. CPJ has a better record in the ACC than O'Leary and Gailey but that doesn't count for some reason.

MikeBanning
MikeBanning

@POAD2013 @TheRealGetReal 

Those experts are making assumptions that those commits actually honor their verbals and do sign on NSD.

If those guessed are such a joke, explain why we have gone 1-15 vs. the most talented teams on our schedule over the last 4 year?

If those guesses are such a joke, explain why we have gone 1-3 in bowl games over the last 4 bowls?

That adds up to 2-18 vs. the most talented teams we have played over the last 4 years , a winning percentage of .100.

Explain away,  JMK!

GTBob
GTBob

@MikeS777 @MikeBanning @collegeballfan Tech has a few non engineering majors but they are nothing like majoring in leisure studies, african american studies or housing at another school. A good percentage of our athletes major in Business Admin which is a top 30 national program that requires Calculus, Finite Math, Lab Science, Computer Science, Business Statistics, and Macro and Microeconomics. 

AugustaJacket
AugustaJacket

@MikeBanning The Wall Street Journal did some research into this.  Of the 1104 Div I football players polled, 14% were business majors.  In comparison, 8% were "general studies" majors, 9% were "liberal arts" majors and 7% were sports and exercise majors.  


When can GT get "general studies", "liberal arts" and sports and exercise so we can offer the same kinds of recruits?

SvenOttke
SvenOttke

@JM64 The UGa grad dominated Board of Regents will rarely allow Tech to expand it's curriculum.  Tech can't offer anything close to the majors UGa does.

JM64
JM64

GT has missed out on several good athlete over the years because those young men wanted to be coaches after their playing days were over.  Ga Tech needs to offer some education options. The state needs more good math and science teachers.  There is no reason GT could not offer these majors as well.

MikeBanning
MikeBanning

@GTJoe @MikeBanning @collegeballfan 

Enough of them major in Business or something closely related to what we offer at GT to find 18-22 each Feb. that are really good FB players.

Do you think that Joe Ham coming out of HS wanted to Major in HST (History, Science, & Tech.) at GT?

GT gave Joe Ham HIS best options FB-wise, and then once he was at GT he found something he could graduate in.

THAT IS THE REALITY OF BIG-TIME CFB!

Too many GT fans refuse to accept this reality even when the examples are right there in our faces.

We lose talented recruits that are academic qualifers for "FB-reasons", not because we didn't have their major, when recruits REJECT GT, they try to let us down easy by saying it was because GT didn't offer my major.

You interpret these politically correct answers as reality, whereas I interpret them for what they really mean.

If GT was pumping out scads of 1st through 4th round NFL draft picks, then academic qualifiers would come to GT and then find something to graduate in like Joe Ham did.

I'll bet everything that I OWN, that coming out of HS, Joe Ham had NEVER HEARD of HST as an academic major, yet he graduated from GT in it.

I'm still amazed at how naive the GT fanbase is, and how little many of you guys know about Big-Time college sports.

MikeBanning
MikeBanning

@GTBob @MikeBanning 

Never said they won't have a losing season.

What I did say was they won't have a streak where they lose 25 games in 4 years like CPJ has.

For  the foreseeable future.

GTMan1949
GTMan1949

FireSomebody

   My same sentiments, our recruiting will wind up between the 50's and 60's, just hopefully PJ will rank higher than Samford, UMass and New Mexico State.

FireSomebody
FireSomebody

@POAD2013 It's funny to watch someone who clearly knows he's wrong dig his own hole deeper and deeper.  

The answer is talent, first and foremost.  A distant second is Paul Johnson's one-dimensional offense.  The sooner you realize this the sooner you'll know where proper criticism should be directed. 

POAD2013
POAD2013

@MikeBanning I'll go with the UGa fan standards.

The REFS

The INJURIES

The TURF

more realistic

Al Groh and his to complicated scheme.

Injuries to the O-line and the DBs

mos the best QB running the O.