Posted: 1:53 pm Thursday, May 29th, 2014

Notre Dame and Georgia State to do football camp together 

By Michael Carvell

Notre Dame has only signed 8 players from Georgia in the last 10 classes, but 4 since Brian Kelly took over in 2010 (AP)

Notre Dame has only signed 8 players from Georgia in the last 10 classes, but 4 since Brian Kelly took over in 2010 (AP)

Notre Dame coach Brian Kelly and his football staff will be “guest coaches” at Georgia State’s football camp next summer.

“I talked to Notre Dame and it was a mutual thing – they thought it was a great idea, and they’ve been recruiting Georgia,” said Georgia State coach Trent Miles, a former Notre Dame assistant coach.

“It’s great for us getting the exposure and getting some kids on our campus that Notre Dame will bring because of their name. I think it will be great for Notre Dame because they have a national presence, and I’m very close to those guys.”

Having big-name guest coaches at summer camps a new trend in college football, this is the second high-profile deal secured by Georgia State in the last month. On June 10, Penn State coach James Franklin and his staff will serve as guest coaches for Trent Miles Football Camp.

Georgia State's Trent Miles (AJC)

Georgia State’s Trent Miles (AJC)

It’s a win-win for both sides: It gives Notre Dame and Penn State the chance to perform in-person evaluations of Georgia prospects who would never travel to the northern schools for summer camps, and it also gives Georgia State exposure to elite prospects.

This week, the SEC coaches have complained about the arrangement, mainly due to the fact that their conference rules prevent them from working as guest coaches at an off-site location. They’d like for the NCAA to close the loophole.

“I’m hearing that the SEC isn’t really happy but I’m worried about us at Georgia State,” Miles said with a chuckle. “I’m only concerned about Georgia State, and I have close ties to Notre Dame. If I can do something to help Notre Dame, I will.”

Which college will be next to strike a deal with Georgia State after Notre Dame and Penn State? The most logical choice would be Ohio State. Miles said he has gotten feelers from some other schools he wouldn’t name, but did say Ohio State wasn’t one of them — at least not yet. “I have not had any conversations with Urban about this.”

More on Miles: He was wide receivers coach at Notre Dame from 2002 to 2004. His future wife worked in Notre Dame’s athletic/academic services, and they were married by one of the team’s priests. One of Miles’ best friends — and his oldest daughter’s godfather – is Notre Dame offensive coordinator Mike Denbrock.

No date has been set from Notre Dame’s appearance in Atlanta but it will be the early part of June 2015. “We’re still working on the calendar,” Miles said.

35 comments
ElStinko
ElStinko

Somebody needs to crack the whip on this idiot coach at GA State.  If the idiot wants to use the States Resources to do a football camps it needs to be with one of the several in state schools.

Quackmeyer
Quackmeyer

WhiskeyBreath.....WOW, what a brain fart!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hpt84
hpt84

I dislike Franklin, but he is smart and will continue to work any loophole that he can find. He will probably also succeed at Penn State.


Geez, leave it to Mikebanning to take an article about Penn State, Notre Dame, GSU and SEC coaches and turn it into a GT bashing.

Quackmeyer
Quackmeyer

CTM must work smarter and harder to be successful.  A tip of the cap to him for doing things to help his team.

WhiskeyBreath
WhiskeyBreath

I would like to know which coaches were against it?

Probably the same ones that are afraid to play a good opponent

If it is within the rules, its should be fair.

You have to admire them for even coming up with the idea.

Notice they picked Atlanta which ought to tell you 

about us having the best talent. 

Concerning Miles, yea he is stupid alright,

he is probably the 2nd best coach in the SEC.  


shameful
shameful

I predict that if Miles were to enjoy any degree of success at State, this kind of thing will limit his options for ever getting a good job. He obviously is too stupid to realize this kind of thing only hurts him in the long run. No kid worthy of being an SEC recruit is going to look at State, so his profiting from this will be minimal to zero, with emphasis on the ZERO!

Of course, if Miles was any good he would have already had a major head coaching job somewhere. Good luck to him to be at State very long.

MikeBanning
MikeBanning

First  Penn. St. and now Notre Dame.

The reason these outside programs are doing this is because they KNOW that CPJ is a weak recruiter and that UGA cannot sign all of the BCS talent from the Metro Atlanta Area.

These outsiders are sensing weakness in Pajamas' Metro Atl. Area recruiting and are closing in like a pack of wild hyenas that sense that a gazelle is injured and can't run fast anymore.

Penn. St. and Notre Dame both recruit players that have the same academic profile as the players that GT recruits, YET, the CPJ apologists have told us repeatedly that CPJ & GT MUST recruit outside of Ga. to find academically qualified recruits.

That actions of Notre Dame and Penn. St. prove that this was a lie, just like I claimed all along.

iamlistening
iamlistening

This is not new. Oklahoma has been doing this in Texas prior to Penn State and Notre Dame even thinking about it. Here is the bright side, once every major program begins having satellite camps in Texas, California, Florida, and Ohio, the loophole will be shut down fast. 

Dogleg
Dogleg

I thought that Georgia State is part of the University System of Georgia? UGA, Tech & Georgia Southern should be mad as hell and the Board of Regents should remind Miles and the Georgia State folks where their funding comes from. Another "Carpetbagger" among us.

POAD2014
POAD2014

Too FUNNY.....The best and Brightest STUDENTS can now go to ND and study ART HISTORY for the gold dome crowd.

Delusionaldog
Delusionaldog

I hate the will "do" as in let's "do" lunch or I'll "do" a #1 with a Diet Coke. 


Lazy writing IMO. 

Bob Rodes
Bob Rodes

@ElStinko Kind of ignores his point, doesn't it?  If he collaborates with a higher-profile team then it will bring bigger talent into his campus.  The only state-run school in Georgia that's higher profile is Georgia, and they aren't allowed to go due to SEC restrictions.  As far as I'm concerned, the SEC ought to get rid of the rule, since it interferes with their ability to recruit nationwide.  But until then, your idea is a no-go.

hpt84
hpt84

@Quackmeyer I don't think that Miles is a great coach. I feel GSU went with a safe hire. He will definitely turn GSU from a bad to average team though. Maybe then, GSU will fork out some money and hire a coach that can take them to the next level.

thebucket
thebucket

@WhiskeyBreath  You do realize the "Miles" in this article is Trent Miles the coach @ Georgia State, not LSU.

MikeBanning
MikeBanning

@shameful

Not necessarily.

A lot of Recruits that are BCS caliber will want to go to as many camps as possible to get in front of as many eyes as possible, and since so many BCS recruits are within a day's drive of Ga. State's campus, a lot of recruits will attend just to improve their odds at a BCS scholly.

The more exposure, the more likely you can get that BCS level scholly.

This is a smart strategy by both Ga. State and Penn. St.

Bob Rodes
Bob Rodes

@MikeBanning When someone says "must recruit outside of GA to find academically qualified recruits", they're not saying that they should not recruit inside GA to find them as well.  ND has to recruit outside of Indiana, for example, but that doesn't mean that they didn't recruit Jaylon Smith. So claim a lie if you will, but you're a long way from proving it.

MichaelCarvell
MichaelCarvell moderator

@MikeBanning lol seriously, where do you come up with this stuff? It wouldn't matter if Georgia Tech's coach was Paul Johnson or Nick Saban. Every D1 college tries to recruit Atlanta like it's in their backyard, and they have success. It's because so many families (and recruits) here aren't from Atlanta.

POAD2014
POAD2014

@MikeBanning and that is why your Wife(if you have one) has been LIVING with B.O.B.(battery operated boyfriend) in her nightstand for your entire marriage because you have Paul Johnson disease.

Bob Rodes
Bob Rodes

@POAD2014 Art History isn't a dumbed-down degree program any more than, say, Public Policy is.  I'd say in general that art historians as a group are smarter than public policy makers, if only because the demand is lower.

MikeBanning
MikeBanning

@POAD2014

Laugh all you want, but  Vandy, Stanford, ND, and now Penn. St. are targeting the Metro Atlanta Area and getting Academic qualifiers that could have helped GT FB win games.

GT FB is getting weaker while those other programs are getting stronger.

PaulinNH
PaulinNH

@MikeBanning 

A lot of Recruits that THINK the are BCS caliber will want to go to as many camps as possible to get in front of as many eyes as possible,

Fixed it for you...

I agree with you on one thing - this is an excellent move for Miles.

MikeBanning
MikeBanning

@MichaelCarvell

I come up with this stuff because GT doesn't get its fair share of the academic qualifiers out of the Metro Atlanta Area and instead we end up getting guys from the Army Prep School that got booted for breaking rules.

If we're gonna get rule breakers then lets sign one from S. Dekalb or S. Fulco that can actually play the game.

We were told in past AJC interviews that GT was  FORCED to recruit players from Md./DC/Virginia/New Jersey due to Academics and yet we see that Penn St. and Notre Dame are targeting Metro Atlanta and Ga. and they recruit players with the same Academic profile that GT does.

Basically GT's Staff lied to the fanbase about the Academic Qualifiers being here in the Metro Atlanta Area and is trying to recruit those areas up North because it is EASIER, not because there aren't enough Academic Qualifiers in the Metro Atlanta Area.

That's where I get this stuff!

HighTechJacket99
HighTechJacket99

How would you sell Tech to these "academic qualifiers"? What would you tell them that would make them want to go to Tech?

Bob Rodes
Bob Rodes

@MikeBanning Hey Mike, I have a great idea.  Maybe GT can put on one of these camps.  Now that ND is in the ACC, they can come down and attract some high-profile talent.

WhiskeyBreath
WhiskeyBreath

@MikeBanning @MichaelCarvell I would like to take a shot at you,

but you are right. I understand the anger. We have too many talented 

kids for Tech to not get it's share.

For what its worth, I wish Tech would come back and kick the crap out of the humps. Mike doesn't want to offend either side. 

POAD2014
POAD2014

@MikeBanning  and MANY MARINES and RANGERS never make it as Green Berets or Seals. Some kids are not built to handle the rigors of The INSTITUTE but they can do the hard work to be ALMOST ELITE. Tuitt at ND taking Art classes that he couldn't take at The INSTITUTE should make his mommy PROUD............When do you think he will finish his ND degree? 

Bob Rodes
Bob Rodes

@POAD2014 Tuitt was enrolled in the College of Arts and Letters with a major in Anthropology.  Not having access to his transcripts, I don't know whether he took an Art class or not ("Arts and Letters" isn't the same thing as "Fine Arts" or just "Art" for short), but if he did, it certainly wasn't the easiest class he took.