Posted: 3:09 pm Tuesday, July 15th, 2014

Spurrier: Nick Saban is ‘greatest recruiter in history of college football’ 

By Michael Carvell

The only two SEC teams that finished in the AP Top 10 each of the last three years (AP)

The only two SEC teams that finished in the AP Top 10 each of the last three years (AP)

Steve Spurrier called Nick Saban “the greatest recruiter in the history of college football” at Tuesday’s SEC Media Days.

Spurrier got onto the topic when he was asked about his recent comments that made it appear that Saban had underachieved with great recruiting classes but only won two SEC championships at Alabama. (Note: He wasn’t asked about Saban’s coaching skills).

“I think they’ve done extremely well — There’s no question about that,” Spurrier said on Tuesday. “I just made a statement that I think they’ve had five No. 1 recruiting classes out of the last six years, which has got to make him the greatest recruiter in the history of college football.

“Arguably, they’ve got the greatest collection of football players ever assembled for a college team. If the recruiting services are correct, and they’re pretty much correct.

“So they’re the favorites. They’re the favorites. There’s no question about that. As long as they can recruit like that, they’re always going to be the favorites.

“I guess fortunately sometimes the team that plays the best is the team that wins instead of maybe who all has the best players.

“I just mention that because it is amazing. When I was at Florida, we had two No. 1 classes, 1991, Danny Wuerffel, all those guys, we had a bunch of players come in. The next year the guys said, Coach, you got too many players on Florida, I’m not going to get on the field.

“But at Alabama they just keep signing them year after year after year. It’s amazing. I give him credit for it. They do it the right way. He runs a good program. It’s just amazing to me how they’ve been able to stack and keep loading up players every year.

“That’s what I was just trying to mention. They’re going to be the favorites. They got to be the favorites.

“Now LSU is pretty good, too. Everybody else recruits very well also. But to be No. 1 that much, that’s just sort of amazing to me.”

Spurrier also pointed out that Rivals.com has South Carolina ranked No. 2 in the nation for its 2015 class. But guess who is No. 1?

“Somebody I read in the paper the other day, Rivals.com had us second in the nation in recruiting,” he said. “Of course, Alabama is No. 1 … Hopefully, all these guys will stick (with us).”

56 comments
DawginCO
DawginCO

SC won't end up at #2 in recruiting.  Especially if those 8 don't make it into school or if even only half make it.  Right now they are at #2 because of volume.  We'll see what that actually amounts to in February.  Spurrier is great coach and he has made SC better than anyone ever has.  Hat off to him.  But having Georgia early this year is not doing him any favors with what he has to replace.  The only reason the chickens are favored is because it is in Columbia.  We will know by the end of the Clemson game whether or not that call is correct.

Gandolph
Gandolph

Scar may be number 2 in recruiting for 2015, but why recruit players that won't show up.  Nearly 1/3 (8) of their 2014 recruiting class haven't been admitted to school yet.  That says something about who they recruit, and, it isn't like Scar is Vanderbilt.  

SamRowland
SamRowland

I will go the route of Alabama as the greatest college program of this era but I would have to say that the coach that really changed it all with modern recruiting finese would have to be the Bear........ 

gtcaryd
gtcaryd

Notice he said recruiter and not coach.

Infraredguy
Infraredguy

It is amazing what Saban has been able to do but I guess that's what the SEC's biggest fleet of Escalades allow you to do.

KeepOnSmilingWetWillie
KeepOnSmilingWetWillie

Alabama depends on Dodge Challengers and Chargers.

The REC is all powerful do doubt.

Dewnsav
Dewnsav

Stevie playing the game...go dogs

Red-Dog
Red-Dog

I don't think anybody can say Coach Saban is not the best doing what he has from where he started from on a depleted Alabama team who was everybody's kicking dog before he got there.

I think his recruiting metrics were/are visionary, UGA has stepped up its game and everybody else has as well. 

Coach Spurrier loves to troll the media ( who loves to be trolled by Spurrier) and this is just a fluff story.


RambleOn84
RambleOn84

Saban also operates his scholarship numbers without a conscience, meaning when players don't perform, he just cuts them.  This is how he consistently signs at least 25 players, even though the scholarship limit is 85.


Saban defenders will argue that everything he does is within the rules.  I have to admit that they are, even though he uses things such as medical hardships in a manner for which they weren't intended.


What it boils down to is that due to his scummy tactics, he doesn't miss on prospects, even when he does.

Terry1961
Terry1961

I believe what Spurrier is getting at, he believes he could have done more with those #1 recruits than Saban, because Spurriers #19 Gamecocks Team knock off Sabans #1 Tide Team in 2010, not to mention he has beaten Saban coached teams three times and Saban has only beaten him once.

Saban Vs Spurrier - 1 - 3

Spurrier - 2000 41-9, 2001 44-15, 2010 35-21,

Saban - 2009 20-6

WhiskeyBreath
WhiskeyBreath

Hey Mike,


I figured out why you were a no show in covering  the Nike Camp.

Alabama took all the MVP trophies. The last thing you will do 

is report  Bama in a positive light. Are you sure that is the right approach? 

Hell, you didn't have anything to report except drama on somebody's head. 

You won't be selling Ga out by writing something positive about Bama.

You may even find it improves your rep.  

maconexpress
maconexpress

I think Steve Spurrier is a great hc but I could care less about the gamecocks. 2 teams I hate losing to the gamecocks and mizzou. Unfortunately, the gamecocks are starting to get better players putting Spurrier in a good position to win that team a nc.

RambleOn84
RambleOn84

Question:

Why wasn't Saban racking up #1 classes consistently at Michigan State?


Hmm...

GTBob
GTBob

It would probably be more accurate to say that Saban is a good recruiter at the easiest school to recruit at in the country.

DawgNole
DawgNole

@DawginCO

No, we'll know by the end of the SC game whether or not that call is correct.

RED DOG 77
RED DOG 77

@Red-Dog  "His recruiting metrics were/are visionary"............wooooooaa now that's a mouth full mister. people will like you for who you are, not by trying to be something you're not........like using my name because it sounds "cool" to you..........just speak plain English, be yourself, you'll be ok Red-Dog............Regards, RED DOG

FlatTire
FlatTire

@RambleOn84  so in the real world if you dont perform at your job;  you continue to stay employed?

WhiskeyBreath
WhiskeyBreath

@Terry1961 First of all , your numbers are flawed.

Secondly, why would a fan from one of the all time underachievers

give a damn about Saban and Spurrier?

Hey dumb butt, Saban has more NC's than Spurrier

and it is not even close. That is what buggs Spurrier. 

By the way, he thinks Brother is a joke. 

He shows the man no respect. 

FlatTire
FlatTire

@WhiskeyBreath seriously? what do you want from a paper whose majority readership is UGA and Tech fans?


So we are to expect the same from a paper in the state of Alabama?

FlatTire
FlatTire

@RambleOn84 thats not hard to answer.  Michigan St plays in a boring conference; hardly has a winning tradition and who wants to go to a cold weather school with no big time winning tradition

FlatTire
FlatTire

@GTBob how is Alabama the easiest school to recruit at in the country?  If that were true they would do much better in other sports

Terry1961
Terry1961

@FlatTire,

I have worked with many people who did not do their job, and I was always amazed that they did not get fired, in the real world, the sorry workers always out number the good workers. So I would say yes, sadly, there are many places of employment that keep under performing workers.

RambleOn84
RambleOn84

@FlatTire @RambleOn84

I get paid at my job.  I didn't sign a contract pledging my football talents in exchange for access to a free education.


Analogies aren't hard; just take a moment to think before you speak (or post, in this case).

FlatTire
FlatTire

@WhiskeyBreath Saban would only have 1 title too if he took the Carolina job instead of Bama

please feel free to look at Miami or Michigan St who has way more winning tradition than Carolina for an example

Terry1961
Terry1961

@WhiskeyBreath, I don't argue with idiots, they will just lower me to their level then beat me with experience.

Rationally
Rationally

I couldn't tell you the last time a read about Georgia in an Alabama paper/site.

RambleOn84
RambleOn84

@FlatTire @RambleOn84

But if he's the "greatest recruiter ever," and if we assume that that actually matters more than the school when it comes to signing kids, shouldn't he have been pulling in nothing but studs up there too?

GTBob
GTBob

@FlatTire I didn't mean for every sport, I meant for football. They are the premier football factory in the nation have have been for quite some time. They have facilities and fan support that can't be matched. Any competent head coach could have top 5 classes at Alabama, assuming they aren't on probation.

RambleOn84
RambleOn84

@The_Real_KJ @FlatTire @RambleOn84

And again, he uses these "medical hardships" (I think that's what they're called) in a manner not consistent with the spirit of the rule.


The rule is put into place so that a football player who has a career-ending injury can finish his studies (keep his scholarship) but not count against that sport's allotted scholarship numbers.  It is a good rule, which is surprising from the NCAA.


Saban, however, uses the rule to sidestep the 85-scholarship rule for players who have NOT suffered career-ending injuries, instead having only suffered minor injuries (in some cases, VERY minor); often times, these players end up transferring and playing elsewhere.


I respect Saban as a tactician and leader of men on the field.  But I cannot imagine how he can talk to a recruit (or his parents) about integrity or education with a straight face.

Contractor1
Contractor1

Dumbest point I've seen in a while. These players are getting a free education other wise that would cost you and I about $40-50,000 a year. On top of that they get food, room and board, clothes, medical attention, and a small stipend. So yeah, they're making something out of the deal. Now whether they choose to take advantage of their compensation is their decision. Much like ours and what we do with our paychecks. It directly correlates.

FlatTire
FlatTire

@RambleOn84  take a moment for what?  They sign a scholarship to play each year;  if they dont perform to the level needed they dont renew the contract thats the way it works for some coaches in college football


at a real job you are given expectations; it may not be in the form of a contract but the premise is the same


Analogies really arent that hard; just take a moment to think before you speak (or post, in this case)

Contractor1
Contractor1

Alabama didn't even have a player drafted before Saban got there and just got off probation, so if that doesn't put you on a level playing field with the likes of a South Carolina I don't know what will. Carolina would have given Saban everything Alabama has if he went there, allowing him to succeed. Understand that the Alabama campus of today is a lot different than the Alabama before Saban came. Ask any older alumni or recent ones before say 2005. I am one since last year and the construction has been unstoppable 24-7 and campus looks absolutely amazing from when I started.

KeepOnSmilingWetWillie
KeepOnSmilingWetWillie

Nick Saban 4 NC's

Ole Ball Coach 1 NC

Gene Cheeze-it 1 NC

These are the facts and they are documented

The_Real_KJ
The_Real_KJ

@Rationally They haven't discovered movable type in Alabama quite yet; give them a few years.


Between this and the "godfather" article, this must be the best day of WhiskeyBreath's life.  Well, his previous best was when he lost his virginity to his sister, but still.

DawginCO
DawginCO

@RambleOn84  Making rational statements will do no good.  Some people will shun logic for their personal bias every time.  Just look around.

FlatTire
FlatTire

@GTBob  the same could be said for several other programs.  The main reason they are having all these top recruits is they are winning

Dewnsav
Dewnsav

@Contractor1 sadly, a good portion do not take advantage of a pretty sweet deal...go dogs

caneowar
caneowar

@FlatTire @RambleOn84 

How bout this FlatTire. I'm a welder by trade A pretty dang good one I'd have to admit. I however don't go to bed every night worrying about a better welder {which I'm sure there are better welders out there} showing up at my job and taking my job away from me. Don't know your occupation, but I have no doubt there are better, more qualified people out there. Do you sweat it every time a person applies for a jot at your place of employment? If you play for Nick scumbag Saban, you better worry.

FlatTire
FlatTire

@Contractor1


Alabama won a national title in 92; Carolina is still underachieving with two back to back hall of fame coaches

GTBob
GTBob

@FlatTire The main reason they are having those recruits is because of who they are. Tennessee has been straight up awful for years now. They pulled in a top 5 class this year and have a top 5 class going for next year as well. Florida had a top 10 class this year after being awful. The school itself probably means about 10x as much as the ability of the recruiter.

Contractor1
Contractor1

I bet you worried about one with more experience coming along while you were applying and interviewing for jobs when you first entered the trade and there on. How stupid was that post?

FlatTire
FlatTire

@caneowar  do you do the job needed to get the job done?

same for those players who are cut at bama did they do a good enough job to garner a position on the team

FlatTire
FlatTire

@GTBob So what about USC; Notre Dame; Oklahoma; Texas; Miami?

GTBob
GTBob

@FlatTire What about them? They are recruiting about where they should. Aside from Texas who is going through a coaching transition. USC has been awful, and has had scholarship reductions the past few years, yet they have still pulled in top 10 classes. They prove my point probably better than any other team.

FlatTire
FlatTire

@GTBob  your original point was Alabama is the easiest place to recruit


I can tell you if Miami and USC are having the same success it will be easier to recruit players there than middle of nowhere Tuscaloosa 

GTBob
GTBob

@FlatTire USC is probably only a small step behind Alabama in how easy it is to recruit. Miami is probably a small step behind them. Both aren't quite Alabama's level though even when they are winning a lot. There is no strong correlation between winning and recruiting results. If your team is awful then it might hurt recruiting but if you are a major factory like Bama, Florida, or Tennessee then that won't even matter. Just get a new coach (any coach) and watch the recruits flock again. 

FlatTire
FlatTire

@GTBob  ok whatever Miami and USC a small step behind LOL


LA;  Miami or middle of nowhere Tuscaloosa?